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Just watch Gus Van Sant's 'Drugstore Cowboy' if you want to get a fairly realistic picture of some of the locals. Like Seattle before the dot-com boom, Portland -- and the Pacific Northwest in general -- still felt like a place people came to disappear.

You can hear that heaviness in the music from that era, the sadness in Nirvana, Mudhoney, Crackerbash, the Wipers who were from earlier years -- the sounds embodied the emotional equivalent of getting washed up on the beach somewhere. You Portland girl nude slip feel at the mercy of your surroundings in the Northwest, subsisting on dreariness until even I like sex Big Spring internal landscape feels soggy.

It's depressing, and before the money came in, before the buildings started to reflect the bright ideas and optimism, that sadness was reflected back much more poignantly.

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The 'big city' was intoxicating to a 13 yr old. Brownstein was an obvious Portland girl nude slip to get such a discussion started.

The rocker and actress has both Portland street cred and, far rarer, Portland celebrity cred.

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And her IFC comedy series made a splash in its very first episode, inwith a song satire that declared, "The dream of the '90s is alive in Portland.

Gril dream -- chiefly about living your own life however you want to define it -- is still very much alive. But Portland girl nude slip reality of the '90s is mostly gone.

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Portland Redditors were quick to make this argument. Counterkulture certainly has a point. Portland in the s was dirtier, less trendy and more dangerous than the city we live in today. It was largely still a working-class city.

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The swank Pearl District didn't even exist yet. The Lovejoy viaduct came down only inopening the mostly derelict industrial area to redevelopment. The decade started with a tavern owner as mayor Bud Portland girl nude slip and ended with a radical environmental activist camping out for 11 days on the ledge of a downtown building Tre Arrow.

Then they were running away, Portoand I got up and shouted after them.

Then they were chasing me, and I ran for the lights and traffic of W Burnside Street. So why do so many people lament this Portland's demise, like the Redditor who Porfland, "I miss dirty, weird Portland"?

Because at least you knew you were truly alive, goes the thinking.

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Because you felt like you were getting in on the ground floor of Portland girl nude slip important being built, something uniquely Portland. Plus, the Trail Blazers were title contenders every year. This was the Rose City where waves of Santa Clauses faced off with police in riot gear.

Where anarchists in town for an "un-conference" broke windows and banged on parked cars as part of a planned "wandering vandalism" excursion. Portland in the s was, of course, where Portland girl nude slip Cobain and Courtney Love met. Love spotted the soon-to-be grunge-rock legend shortly before he took the stage at the Satyricon. He wrestled her to the floor.

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Love also had yet to become a rock star at this time. She had been making her living in Portland as a stripper.

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Many longtime Portland girl nude slip clearly feel like something meaningful has been lost over the past dozen or so, increasingly upscale years, something sli; made Portland special. Those who think the city today is special found the Reddit thread a bit disheartening. Well, buck-up Portland fans, because Brownstein, at least, still likes the Rose City too.

In the paragraph before the one that made it onto Reddit, she wrote this:. Portland has a nurturing quality, a placidity. For better or worse, it's a perennial but shyly hopeful city; if we had a gesture it would be a shrug.

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